YIKES!!! With $35 for UPS shipping to Vancouver that's just 11% of the price I paid originally for the EG-800. Three and a half years sure makes a ton of difference in computer prices huh? I'll chew on this for a bit - seems the price is fixed, so there's probably no rush - and consider whether to order one or two. Anyone who's used an old Casio HAST screen would be a fool not to get in on this deal, even if the EG-800 is such a buggy monster as to be a bit of a risk.
Now, I wonder if it'd be possible to track down an old JK710-DC CF camera...
Gerard, those cameras pop up on ebay every once in a while. I do know that the veo camera has drivers available that work on this model. Also, not one problem with the cf slot ever since ppctechs fixed it. I now make an effort to use the eject button so as to not stress the connection.
I used to use the stylus-tip eject mechanism constantly when swapping CF cards, both storage and dialup modem types. But I also had the Casio camera, and a CF>PC adapter card for connecting my Accurite 6GB hard drive. Both of those block the release button completely, making stylus-tip ejection impossible. If I over-stressed the pins by pulling out cards by hand, well, perhaps Casio should have considered pulling the JK710-DC from the top of their EG-800 available accessories list! I was lead to believe that there was no problem here. And given that no other CF slot on a device has ever failed me I find it shocking that these 'industrail devices' should be so very fragile.
But no, I shouldn't still be angry. Just that it was over USD$1300 with shipping and UPS brokerage fees and that still kind of stings considering how much time I wasted fighting with 5 defective EG-800s. I don't know, do I really want to get into more trouble with one of these even at such a massive discount? I'll chew on it for a couple of weeks, make sure I have my bills paid up for the end of the month, then see if it still feels like a good idea.
Thanks for the tip on the Veo. I'm actually a lot more likely to get a FlyCam 1.3Mp with flash, as the developer of CECam seems to think this is the most flexible model for decent pictures, and it has better video options than any other CF camera. My Pretec bailed because of a factory-pinched ribbon cable so I am at present using just an ancient HP CF camera. That's fun though, as I've pulled off the filter and added a Kodak Wratten No. 87 infrared filter which makes for some very weird images. Pure infrared is all that can get through this filter, and the removal of the stock filter from the HP makes it possible to take advantage of the strong infrared sensitivity of this CMOS receptor. People glow. So does foliage. I can watch the flashing of infrared beams from remote controls and PPCs. I'm figuring out how to make it easy to swap between the normal filter and the Ir one, so as to make normal imaging easy too.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:54 am Post subject: WHY IS THE EG 800 so expencive?
In casio.com, the original price for the eg-800 is around $500 and it has the pockt pc 2000 os, not even 2002 or 2003....Why is it so expencive, whats so good about it? it looks much bigger than a normal ppc?
The EG-800 initially retailed for USD$1149, not $500. In November of 2000 this was a state-of-the-art industrial PPC, with 32MB RAM, 14.21MB flash RAM (power-independent, stable internal store for programs and data, supplied in 2 re-distributable partitions), a 150MHz MIPS processor which was second only to the ARM 206MHz processor carried in the iPAQ line, and most importantly to this model it was drop- and water-resistant. Well, sort of. The seals turned out not o stay sealed, popping off the serial, CF, and audio/AC ports after a month for some users, a few months for others, if they were opened and closed on a regular basis.
I can personally attest though to the drop-resistance. Within a month of getting one of my EG-800s I dropped it about a metre while running down the street to catch a bus, in the rain. It bounced. It was on when I picked it up, and functioning correctly. No problem. And recently, with the CF slot failing repeatedly and other problems, I often find that a good hard smack can get it working again, especially to the front of the unit, especially when the touchscreen fails to respond to the stylus. A couple of years ago I added a Lexan sheet 3mm thick to the face of the unit, so hitting it hard is a non-issue as far as the screen is concerned. Very tough, yes indeed.
Is the EG-800 worth $1149? Of course not. Was it at the time, in mid-November of 2000? To me, yes. Is it worth $500 now? No. Is it worth $99, or even $199? Yes, I'd say it is, definitely. Even without the seals, the Casio EG-800 is an amazing device. Until you've seen the beauty (indoors only) of that HAST screen, and until you've played games with those beautiful, wonderful buttons, you've not experience just how great those elements can be on a PPC. No other company has yet made its equal for graphic editing/viewing and for gamers. Sadly, the unit and the OS are dinosaurs, and any interest has to be specialised. My kid loves the thing, especially for platform games and for painting in Pocket Artist.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:16 am Post subject:
I still use my E-125 for gaming, a lot. I think it has the same screen and very similar buttons as the EG-800.
The screen is truely amazing indoors. I do not think any newer PPC has a screen with as good contrasts and colors. My Viewsonic V37's screen, which is one of the better ones today, simply pales in comprison to the (really) old Casio.
As for the buttons... again almost all other PPCs do not compare. It's still not as good as my Gameboy Color, but it's very close.
I paid roughly $400 CAD for it, almost 3 years ago. And I'm still keeping it because I cannot find another PPC that can truely replace it (I'm going to sell the Viewsonic instead, lol).
Unfortunately today, it's old and slow. On the other hand, Casio just released a new model DT-10 in Japan, with very up to date specs, and I'm eagerly waiting for the reviews...
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